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US: Christians, did you lose a debate?

October 24, 2013

Then ‘lose’ the debate!

Last weekend, on October 12, I was invited by Adventure Christian Church to participate in a “Great Debate.” My opponent was David Marshall, a Christian author, blogger and founder/director of the Kuai Mu Institute for Christianity and World Cultures.

The question at hand: “What provides a better foundation for civil society, Christianity or Secular Humanism?” David Marshall took the Christian position, and I took the secular humanist position….

I was repeatedly told — via e-mail, as well as in person — that not only would the debate be video’ed by their expert video team, but the video of the debate would be posted on vimeo soon after the debate.

And so we had the debate. And I won. Now, that’s not my opinion — its the opinion of Adventure Christian church, because they now refuse to post the video on-line.

Instead, what they’ve done is post a series of rebuttals to the debate — refutations and criticisms. But they won’t post the actual debate. And they’ve disabled my ability to even comment on their posted refutations.

When I called pastor Bryan, and asked him why they are refusing to post the video — even after repeated promises of doing so — he replied, “It just didn’t go the way we wanted it to go. We were not represented well.” 

There is a real irony here: the debate was about civil society — and here we see an Evangelical church acting quite uncivil. 

Huffington Post – Phil Zuckerman

Here’s the moral: when debating the delusional, have your own independent recorder present, and make sure you have legal clearance to broadcast their stuff.

Update: pastor Bryan has had a change of heart. Nothing to do with attracting global criticism, of course.


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